175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)
The Rest Is Politics: Leading | Feb 09 2026 | 01:10:07
Do Russia or China represent a bigger risk to UK national security? Why are we underestimating the threat posed by cybercriminals? Who holds the real power - ministers or spies?
Rory and Alastair are joined by Jeremy Fleming, formerly of GCHQ and MI5, to answer all this and more.
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Rory and Alastair are joined by Jeremy Fleming, formerly of GCHQ and MI5, to answer all this and more.
Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord.
Social Producer: Celine Charles
Video Editor: Josh Smith
Producer: Alice Horrell
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Head of Politics: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices