214. What Elon Musk Gets Wrong About South Africa

How can politicians rebuild trust after decades of division? How do you get political enemies to sit down at the same table? What would Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu make of South Africa today?

Alastair Campbell is joined by Paul van Zyl, who served as the Executive Secretary of South Africa's post-apartheid Truth and Reconciliation Commission from 1995 to 1998, to answer all these questions and more.

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