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The Vergecast | 25 sep 2026 | 01:31:45

Meta's Muse AI agent is cute (sometimes caked-up) and it performs well as a productivity tool. And, if you give it access to your social media and e-mail, it can know basically everything about you. This week on The Vergecast, Nilay Patel, Jake Kastrenakes and David Imel give their reactions to Mark Zuckerberg's demos at Wednesday's Meta Connect keynote. They also talk about the new glasses hardware, including the new VR glasses and audio-only, camera-free Ray-Bans.Then, we take a look at the newly-announced, chimeric Chrome/Android hybrid Googlebooks, find out why Brendan Carr is a dummy this week, analyze the Paramount merger, discuss what YouTube's A/B video testing means for the increasingly tenuous concept of a shared reality, and end on a surprisingly heartwarming story about RODECaster 4K support.
Further reading:
Meta Connect 2026: The 7 biggest announcements
Meta Connect 2026 live blog: On the ground at Mark Zuckerberg’s next big product launch
Meta’s Muse AI works and creeps me out
Amazon blocks Meta’s Muse AI agent
Meta ditches the camera on its newest smart glasses
Meta’s next VR device isn’t a headset — it’s glasses
These are the first five Googlebook laptops
Googlebooks feel like the first laptops built for Android owners
I got to see Google’s wild ideas about the future of laptops
The long dream of the Googlebook
Mahershala Ali On ‘Blade’ Being A Big Failure For Kevin Feige: “100%. He Should Feel That Way”
Paramount will need to release way more movies to make this merger work
Xbox is barely Xbox anymore
YouTube is cooking up new Live features.
Free Rodecaster Video firmware update adds 4K support.
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0:00 Welcome Back Banter
00:31 Meta Connect Setup
01:27 Muse First Impressions
05:28 Privacy Trust Gap
07:58 Pervert Glasses Debate
12:55 Passive Surveillance Reality
15:42 Is Muse Actually Winning
18:44 Muse Charm Post Phone
21:38 Do We Need Agents
26:12 Break And Return
26:29 New Meta Hardware
27:00 Audio Only Ray Bans
28:30 Muse Powered Glasses
31:15 Meta Bets on Muse
32:28 Hearing Aid Glasses Pitch
34:40 VR Glasses Return
39:04 Holograms and Splats
42:44 Google Books Arrive
44:57 Android Laptop Lock In
47:49 Windows Fatigue Debate
54:54 Hype Desk Blade Drama
57:14 Remembering Blade Chaos
01:00:37 Blade Reboot Frustrations
01:01:26 Sonos Sponsor Break
01:03:07 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:07:38 Lightning Round Kickoff
01:08:02 Meta Muse Mascot Chaos
01:09:26 Paramount Warner Deal Fallout
01:12:37 YouTube AI Channel Agents
01:14:05 A B Video Testing Ethics
01:21:25 Xbox Layoffs And Halo Shift
01:24:45 Rodecaster Free 4K Update
01:26:36 Muse Marketplace Haggling
01:27:35 Wrap Up And Next Episodes
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Further reading:
Meta Connect 2026: The 7 biggest announcements
Meta Connect 2026 live blog: On the ground at Mark Zuckerberg’s next big product launch
Meta’s Muse AI works and creeps me out
Amazon blocks Meta’s Muse AI agent
Meta ditches the camera on its newest smart glasses
Meta’s next VR device isn’t a headset — it’s glasses
These are the first five Googlebook laptops
Googlebooks feel like the first laptops built for Android owners
I got to see Google’s wild ideas about the future of laptops
The long dream of the Googlebook
Mahershala Ali On ‘Blade’ Being A Big Failure For Kevin Feige: “100%. He Should Feel That Way”
Paramount will need to release way more movies to make this merger work
Xbox is barely Xbox anymore
YouTube is cooking up new Live features.
Free Rodecaster Video firmware update adds 4K support.
Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.
We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11.
0:00 Welcome Back Banter
00:31 Meta Connect Setup
01:27 Muse First Impressions
05:28 Privacy Trust Gap
07:58 Pervert Glasses Debate
12:55 Passive Surveillance Reality
15:42 Is Muse Actually Winning
18:44 Muse Charm Post Phone
21:38 Do We Need Agents
26:12 Break And Return
26:29 New Meta Hardware
27:00 Audio Only Ray Bans
28:30 Muse Powered Glasses
31:15 Meta Bets on Muse
32:28 Hearing Aid Glasses Pitch
34:40 VR Glasses Return
39:04 Holograms and Splats
42:44 Google Books Arrive
44:57 Android Laptop Lock In
47:49 Windows Fatigue Debate
54:54 Hype Desk Blade Drama
57:14 Remembering Blade Chaos
01:00:37 Blade Reboot Frustrations
01:01:26 Sonos Sponsor Break
01:03:07 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:07:38 Lightning Round Kickoff
01:08:02 Meta Muse Mascot Chaos
01:09:26 Paramount Warner Deal Fallout
01:12:37 YouTube AI Channel Agents
01:14:05 A B Video Testing Ethics
01:21:25 Xbox Layoffs And Halo Shift
01:24:45 Rodecaster Free 4K Update
01:26:36 Muse Marketplace Haggling
01:27:35 Wrap Up And Next Episodes
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