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Dé podcast voor de financiële sector. Geniet en leer van de gesprekken die Jeroen Broekema voert met Leaders in Finance!
The leading podcast for the Dutch financial sector. Enjoy and learn from the conversations Jeroen Broekema hosts with Leaders in Finance.


Sommige gesprekken zijn het waard om nog eens naar terug te keren. Dit is er zo één.
Het oorspronkelijke gesprek met Jacqueline van den Ende is de op één na best beluisterde aflevering uit de geschiedenis van de Leaders in Finance Podcast. Hoog tijd voor 10 minuten met Jacqueline.
Ze vertelt over Carbon Equity, waarom ze veel liever zelf bouwt dan vanaf de achterbank meekijkt en haar ambitie om miljarden aan extra kapitaal richting klimaatoplossingen te krijgen.
Maar het gaat ook over de Jacqueline achter de ondernemer. Over opgroeien in Australië en Syrië, terugkomen in Nederland en proberen erbij te horen in Wassenaar. Over een afwijzing die als een mokerslag aankwam – en haar leerde dat je uiteindelijk zelf de slingers moet ophangen.
En over probably een workaholic zijn, surfen in de Noordzee, rennend Amsterdam ontdekken en een stiekeme droom: ooit burgemeester van Amsterdam worden.
Veel plezier met deze 10 minuten met Jacqueline van den Ende. Meer horen? Luister hier naar de volledige oorspronkelijke aflevering.
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Eerdere gasten in de Leaders in Finance Podcast zijn onder anderen: Klaas Knot (president van DNB), Frank Elderson (lid van de directie van de ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO van de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO van ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (lid van de Raad van Bestuur van a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (lid van de Management Board van ING en Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO van ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO van NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking bij Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO van NN Group), Janine Vos (lid van de Raad van Bestuur van Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO van Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO van Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO van Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (voormalig president van DNB), Onno Ruding (voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO van Movir), Laura van Geest (voorzitter van het bestuur van de AFM), Ka…

Jeroen Broekema speaks with Stefaan Decraene about his first years at Rabobank and the decisions he made after arriving in Utrecht. Decraene talks about telling people to leave meetings, building his own management team and trying to bring more speed into the bank. The conversation also covers AI, agro and AML, Rabobank’s return to professional cycling, taking risks and staying humble.
Stefaan Decraene has served as Chair of Rabobank’s Managing Board since January 2023, becoming the first non-Dutch person to lead the bank. In this role, he heads an international cooperative bank with around 48,000 employees across 34 countries.
Decraene began his career in 1988 at Bacob Bank, a Belgian cooperative bank that became Artesia, where he worked in investment banking and securities before becoming Chair of Artesia Securities and subsequently Chair of Bank Artesia Nederland. He then held several senior positions at Dexia. In 2006, he became Chair of Dexia Bank Belgium.
He also took on group-level responsibility for retail and commercial banking in Belgium, Turkey, Slovakia and Luxembourg. In 2011, Decraene joined BNP Paribas. Based in Paris, he spent the next 11 years on the Group’s Executive Committee, where he was responsible for its international retail banking activities.
Since taking the helm at Rabobank, Decraene has overseen an internal reorganisation and a period of strong financial performance. In 2024, Rabobank reported a record net profit of €5.2 billion and close to €5 billion again in 2025. In 2026, the bank announced plans to invest up to €2 billion in data, technology and artificial intelligence over the next three years.
Decraene studied political, social and economic sciences at the University of Brussels and later earned a master’s degree in economics from KU Leuven. He is 61 years old and is married to Catherine. They have two sons, and he is also a grandfather. During the week, he lives in Amsterdam. At weekends, he returns home to Bruges, Belgium.
Book mentioned in this episode: Over welvaart by Bart De Wever
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Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance Podcast include Klaas Knot (former President of DNB), Frank Elderson (Member of the Executive Board of the ECB), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Member of the Executive Board of a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Member of the Management Board of ING and Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (former CEO of ABN AMRO), Saul van Beurden (CEO of Consumer, Small & Business Banking at Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO of NN Group), Janine Vos (Member of the Managing Board of Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO …

In deze extra aflevering van Leaders in Finance spreekt Jeroen Broekema met NRC-journalist Stijn Bronzwaer over zijn nieuwe boek Ali Niknam: De eenzame strijd van een techmiljardair. Samen met Merijn Rengers en Joris Kooiman verdiepte Stijn zich in het leven van de oprichter van bunq. Voor het boek spraken zij met meer dan 200 mensen.
Hoe bouwde Ali Niknam vanuit het niets drie miljardenbedrijven op? En hoe is het om voor hem te werken? Jeroen en Stijn bespreken zijn leiderschapsstijl, de snelle opkomst van bunq en de vraag hoe groot het succes van de bank inmiddels is. Ook gaat het over de eenzaamheid die volgens Stijn achter Niknams succes schuilgaat.
Stijn vertelt daarnaast hoe de journalisten te werk gingen toen Niknam niet aan het boek wilde meewerken, en waarom zij het belangrijk vonden om zowel zijn bewonderaars als zijn critici te spreken.
Het boek: Ali Niknam: De eenzame strijd van een techmiljardair, geschreven door Stijn Bronzwaer, Joris Kooiman en Merijn Rengers.
Jeroen Broekema sprak eerder zelf met Ali Niknam over bunq en zijn ondernemerschap. Van dat gesprek kun je ook de transcriptie lezen.
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Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir),…

Welcome to this extra episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, recorded live after the third Leaders in Finance Compliance Event at the H’ART Museum in Amsterdam, where over 100 participants from more than 50 organisations came together to discuss the future of compliance in financial services, with a particular focus on AI, technology and crypto.
Host Kees de Wit reflects on the day’s key themes together with Leanne Joseph (moderator of the event), Tom van de Laar (Head of Financial Crime Compliance & Deputy Chief Compliance Officer, Rabobank), and Pieter van Doorn (Partner, Deloitte).
Together, they discuss how rapidly developing technologies are changing the compliance profession, whether AI could eventually replace parts of the compliance function, and why human judgement will remain essential. They also reflect on the rise of crypto and neobanks, the impact of regulation such as MiCAR, and the continuing tension between innovation and effective oversight. And looking ahead: how can financial institutions, regulators and other public and private parties work together more effectively, build trust and respond with greater urgency to a rapidly changing financial landscape?
A big thank you to all speakers, participants and our event partners for making this another inspiring edition of the Leaders in Finance Compliance Event.
Leaders in Finance is made possible by the support of EY, Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen, Duna and Lepaya. More information about our partners is available on our partner page.
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Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance Podcast include Klaas Knot (former President of DNB), Frank Elderson (Member of the Executive Board of the ECB), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Member of the Executive Board of a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Member of the Management Board of ING and Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (former CEO of ABN AMRO), Saul van Beurden (CEO of Consumer, Small & Business Banking at Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO of NN Group), Janine Vos (Member of the Managing Board of Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO of Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO of Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO of Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President of DNB),

Some conversations are worth returning to. This is certainly one of them.
Anneka Treon’s original appearance became the most-listened-to episode in the history of the Leaders in Finance Podcast. In this new ten-minute edit, Jeroen Broekema revisits some of its most memorable moments.
Anneka talks about growing up as a competitive chess player and a self-described nerd, what first drew her to financial services, and the striking cultural differences between the United Kingdom and the Netherlands. She also reflects on ambition, competition and why building a career is ultimately a marathon, not a sprint.
At the time of the original recording, Anneka worked at Van Lanschot Kempen. She has since joined ING, where she leads its global wealth management business.
Enjoy these ten minutes with Anneka Treon. Would you like to hear more? Listen to the full original episode here.
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Questions, suggestions or feedback? We would love to hear from you. Email us at [email protected] or visit leadersinfinance.nl.
Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President of DNB), Frank Elderson (Member of the Executive Board of the ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO of de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Member of the Executive Board of a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Member of the Management Board of ING and Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO of ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO of NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO of Consumer, Small & Business Banking at Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO of NN Group), Janine Vos (Member of the Executive Board of Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO of Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO of Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO of Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President of DNB), Onno Ruding (former Minister of Finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO of Movir), Laura van Geest (Chair of the Executive Board of the AFM), Katja Kok (CEO of Van Lanschot Switzerland), Ali Niknam (CEO of bunq),

Daniele Tonella is Chief Technology Officer and a member of ING’s Management Board Banking. Since August 2024, he has been responsible for ING’s global technology landscape and advises the Management Board on technology-driven business opportunities. As he puts it, his role covers almost everything at ING that contains “a chip or a line of code.”
He leads a global technology organisation of around 20,000 employees. His responsibilities include the reliability and security of ING’s systems, engineering productivity, the transition to scalable global technology platforms and cloud-native architecture, and innovation in areas such as artificial intelligence.
Before joining ING, Daniele was Group Chief Information Officer at UniCredit and CEO of UniCredit Services. Earlier in his career, he led AXA Technology Services, served as Global CIO at Evalueserve, held technology and operations leadership roles at Swiss Life, and worked in consulting at Mercer Management Consulting and McKinsey & Company.
Daniele grew up in the Italian-speaking part of Switzerland and studied engineering at ETH Zurich. He later completed executive education programmes at Harvard, IMD, INSEAD and MIT Sloan. Daniele is 54, is married, lives in Switzerland and has four children.
In this conversation, Daniele discusses what it takes to lead technology at scale, why AI can turn “garbage in, garbage out” into “garbage in, disaster out,” and how ING balances innovation with standardisation, security and resilience. He also reflects on his leadership style, the future of junior engineers, technological sovereignty, introversion, family life and his lifelong desire to build things.
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Books mentioned in this episode: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking – Susan Cain On Bullshit – Harry G. Frankfurt
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Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President of DNB), Frank Elderson (Member of the Executive Board of the ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO of de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Member of the Executive Board of a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Member of the Management Board of ING and Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO of ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO of NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO of Consumer, Small & Business Banking at Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO of NN Group), Jani…

Frits Moonen is oprichter en managing partner van Momentum Family Office, een onafhankelijk multi-family office dat vermogende ondernemers en families adviseert over de inrichting, bescherming en overdracht van hun vermogen. Sinds de oprichting in 2019 is Momentum uitgegroeid tot een van de snelst groeiende onafhankelijke family offices van Nederland.
Voordat hij Momentum oprichtte, werkte Frits bij ING. Hij begon er als trainee en groeide door tot private banker. Daar ontstond zijn overtuiging dat onafhankelijk financieel advies en productverkoop strikt gescheiden zouden moeten zijn. Vanuit die visie richtte hij zijn eigen onderneming op.
Frits behaalde een master Bedrijfskunde aan de Rijksuniversiteit Groningen. Hij is 36 jaar en woont in Amsterdam
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*** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank),

In deze extra aflevering van Leaders in Finance spreekt Jeroen Broekema met Hadewych Kuiper, Managing Director en lid van de Management Board van Triodos Investment Management.
Hadewych vertelt hoe haar Groningse achtergrond, haar werk als consultant en een bewuste keuze om niet voor British American Tobacco naar Hongkong te gaan haar uiteindelijk bij Triodos brachten. Ze begon er in 2008, vlak voordat de financiële crisis uitbrak, en zag van dichtbij waarom het verschil maakt om precies te weten waar geld terechtkomt.
Triodos Investment Management beheert inmiddels ruim €6 miljard. Hoe selecteer je bedrijven die echt bijdragen aan de energie-, voedsel- en circulariteitstransitie of aan menselijk en maatschappelijk welzijn? Waarom belegt Triodos wel in Vestas, maar niet in Tesla? En hoe combineer je impact met harde rendementseisen?
Ook gaat het over engagement met bedrijven, microfinanciering, institutionele beleggers, actieve ETF’s en de ambitie om door te groeien naar €10 miljard. Want voor Hadewych gaat het niet alleen om financing change, maar ook om changing finance.
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Frank Schrijver is CEO van Quion, een van de grootste onafhankelijke hypotheekservicers van Nederland. Quion beheert voor banken, verzekeraars, pensioenfondsen en institutionele beleggers hypotheekportefeuilles ter waarde van vele tientallen miljarden euro's. Daarmee is het een belangrijke speler achter de schermen van de Nederlandse hypotheekmarkt.
Frank trad in september 2024 toe tot Quion als Chief Business Development Officer en lid van het directieteam. In 2026 werd hij benoemd tot CEO.
Daarvoor werkte hij ruim zestien jaar bij Roland Berger, waar hij partner was binnen de Financial Services-praktijk. Hij adviseerde banken en andere financiële instellingen in Nederland en Europa over strategie, groei en transformatie.
Eerder werkte hij ongeveer zes jaar bij ABN AMRO, waar hij zijn carrière in de financiële sector begon. Frank studeerde Bedrijfseconomie aan de Rijksuniversiteit Groningen en volgde daarna een master Management Consultancy aan de Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam.
Tot slot, Frank is 49 jaar, en woont samen met Hanneke Oude Nijhuis en hun twee kinderen, Liselotte en Noud, in Baarn.
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Extra microcast: The Leaders in Finance AML Event 2026
How do you keep anti-money laundering both effective and affordable in a world that never stops changing? That's the central question at this year's Leaders in Finance AML Event, taking place Thursday 1 October 2026 at Pakhuis de Zwijger in Amsterdam.
Financial crime is getting more complex, regulators are raising the bar, and questions around privacy and data sharing have never been sharper. This event is about finding balance.
On the program: a keynote from journalist and author Oliver Bullough, author of Everybody Loves Our Dollars; the regulators' view straight from De Nederlandsche Bank and the Dutch Data Protection Authority (Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens); banking panels featuring ABN AMRO, Rabobank, ING and ASN Bank; and a keynote on the new European AML regulation and authority from Rikke-Louise Ørum Petersen, Executive Board Member of AMLA.
Join us on 1 October, 9:00–13:00, followed by a networking lunch. Be our guest.
🗓 Thursday 1 October 2026 🕘 08:00 – 14:30, including coffee, registration and a networking lunch 📍 Pakhuis de Zwijger, Amsterdam (NL) 🔠 English-language event 🌐 Register now: https://www.leadersinfinance.nl/anti-money-laundering-event-2026/

Jos Heuvelman behoort tot de meest ervaren financiële toezichthouders van Nederland. Sinds 2018 maakt hij deel uit van het bestuur van de Autoriteit Financiële Markten (AFM), waar hij verantwoordelijk is voor toezicht op onder meer beleggen, pensioenen, verzekeren en vermogensbeheer.
Na acht jaar in die rol neemt hij in september 2026 afscheid als bestuurder van de Autoriteit Financiële Markten. Daarnaast is hij actief in verschillende Europese toezichtsorganen, waaronder als lid van de Board of Supervisors van ESMA, de Europese toezichthouder voor de effectenmarkten. Voor zijn overstap naar de AFM werkte Jos bijna 33 jaar, of rond de 33 jaar, bij De Nederlandsche Bank. Daar bekleedde hij diverse leidinggevende functies binnen het toezicht op banken, verzekeraars, pensioenfondsen en vermogensbeheerders.
In zijn laatste rol als directeur Toezicht Europese Banken was hij verantwoordelijk voor het toezicht op de grootste Nederlandse banken binnen het Europese toezichtssysteem. Ook speelde hij een belangrijke rol bij de opbouw van de Europese bankenunie.
Jos studeerde econometrie aan de Rijksuniversiteit Groningen en economie aan de Universiteit van Amsterdam. Daarnaast behaalde hij een master in Financial Risk Management aan de New York University Stern School of Business en volgde hij executive opleidingen aan INSEAD. Tot slot: Jos is 64, woont in Kamerik, is getrouwd en heeft drie kinderen.
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*** Boeken genoemd in de aflevering: Bartje – Anne de Vries
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In this episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, Jeroen Broekema speaks with Folkert Eggink, CEO of Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen.
Ten years after joining the company, Folkert reflects on the journey from a Dutch SME mortgage platform to a business with European ambitions. We talk about why predictable investments are becoming more relevant, how customer feedback continues to shape new products, and what it takes to keep growing while maintaining a strong focus on risk management.
The conversation also covers Mogelijk's expansion into Belgium and Germany, the growing role of European regulation, the balance between institutional and private investors, and the opportunities Folkert sees for the years ahead.
Your host is Jeroen Broekema.
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*** Listen to the previous episode with Folkert Eggink
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH),

Jeroen en Stan ter Huurne vertegenwoordigen samen twee generaties ondernemerschap binnen Collin Crowdfund, een van de grootste crowdfinance-platformen van Nederland.
Jeroen ter Huurne begon zijn carrière bij Rabobank, waar hij uiteindelijk bijna dertig jaar werkzaam was, waarvan 22 jaar in directiefuncties. Op 29-jarige leeftijd werd hij de jongste Rabobankdirecteur van Zuid-Nederland. Na de financiële crisis zag hij dat traditionele banken steeds terughoudender werden in mkb-financiering. Vanuit die observatie richtte hij in 2014 Collin Crowdfund op, aanvankelijk vanuit het tuinhuis van zijn woning.
Sindsdien groeide Collin Crowdfund uit tot een belangrijke speler in non-bancaire financiering, met inmiddels meer dan 1.5 miljard euro aan bemiddelde financieringen en ruim 50.000 actieve investeerders.
Stan ter Huurne is sinds december 2024 Operationeel Directeur van Collin Crowdfund. Daarvoor vervulde hij binnen de organisatie onder meer de functies van Business Controller en Bestuurssecretaris. Stan promoveerde in de Technische Natuurkunde aan de Eindhoven University of Technology.
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Jacco Maters behoort tot de meest ervaren bestuurders in de Nederlandse institutionele beleggingswereld. Sinds 2018 is hij CEO en Chief Investment Officer van Anthos Fund & Asset Management. Daar is hij verantwoordelijk voor de wereldwijde beleggingsportefeuilles van families, family offices, stichtingen en andere institutionele langetermijnbeleggers.
Onder zijn leiding ontwikkelde Anthos zich verder tot een internationaal opererende, values-based vermogensbeheerder met een sterke focus op langetermijnwaardecreatie, verantwoord beleggen en stewardship. Eerder dit jaar kondigde hij aan dat hij per 10 augustus 2026 terugtreedt als CEO en CIO, na acht jaar leiding te hebben gegeven aan de organisatie.
Daarvoor was Jacco onder meer CEO en CIO van Delta Lloyd Asset Management. Eerder bekleedde hij senior beleggingsfuncties bij Allianz, Lombard Odier en ABN AMRO, en was hij Business Leader Financial Sector & Wealth bij Mercer.
Tot slot, Jacco studeerde Econometrie aan Tilburg University. Hij is 53 jaar, en is getrouwd en heeft drie kinderen en woont in Beusichem.
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*** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën),

In this extra episode of Leaders in Finance, Jeroen Broekema speaks with Lenhard Hübscher, Country Lead Benelux & France at Riverty, about the company's recent acquisition of a European banking licence.
They discuss why Riverty decided to become a bank, what the licence changes in practice, and why the company has no ambition to become a traditional retail bank. Instead, the conversation focuses on embedded finance, the future of Buy Now, Pay Later, and Riverty's strategy to support merchants across Europe.
Lenhard also reflects on the licensing process itself, the choice for Luxembourg, the increasing role of regulation in fintech, and Riverty's plans for further growth in consumer finance and European expansion.
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In this episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, host Jeroen Broekema speaks with Ingo Uytdehaage, co-CEO of Adyen, and Jessica Peters-Hondelink, Directeur-bestuurder and CEO of Amsterdam Economic Board.
The conversation explores what has made Amsterdam one of Europe's leading technology and fintech hubs, and what is needed to maintain that position in the years ahead. Topics include entrepreneurship, talent, public-private cooperation, AI, digital autonomy, regulation, housing, infrastructure and the role of government in creating a competitive business climate.
Ingo reflects on Adyen's growth from a small Amsterdam startup into a global fintech company with more than 5,000 employees, while Jessica explains how Amsterdam Economic Board brings together businesses, governments and knowledge institutions to strengthen the region's innovation ecosystem. Together, they discuss why collaboration, long-term ambition and a strong technology ecosystem are essential for the future of the Dutch economy.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM),
Welcome to this extra episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, recorded live after the third Leaders in Finance AI Event at Pakhuis de Zwijger in Amsterdam.
Following a day of keynotes and discussions, host Kees de Wit is joined by Menno Bonninga (Partner at EY Consulting and EY Netherlands AI Lead), Bira Thanabalasingam (Managing Director at Yellowtail Conclusion), Kyriakos Fistos (AI & Analytics Advisor at SAS), and Yorick Naeff (Chief Innovation Officer at ABN AMRO) to reflect on some of the biggest questions facing financial institutions as AI moves from experimentation towards everyday business.
Why do so many AI initiatives still struggle to scale? Why is data quality often a bigger challenge than the AI models themselves? And how do large financial institutions balance innovation with governance, regulation and decades of legacy systems? The conversation explores the rise of agentic AI, the difference between trust and customer loyalty, why organisations should stop chasing the latest models and instead start with strategy, and how AI is forcing banks to rethink not only their technology, but also their operating models, workforce and long-term role in society.
One theme returns throughout the discussion: successful AI transformation is ultimately less about technology than about people, leadership and making the right organisational choices.
A big thank you to all speakers, participants and our event partners for making this another inspiring edition of the Leaders in Finance AI Event.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank),
Welcome to this extra episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, recorded live after the fourth Leaders in Finance Cybersecurity Event at Kontakt der Kontinenten in Soesterberg, where over 100 participants from more than 50 organisations came together to discuss one of the defining challenges for the financial sector: building cyber resilience in an increasingly uncertain world.
Host Kees de Wit reflects on the day's key themes together with Rudrani Djwalapersad (Partner, Cyber Security Financial Services, EY), Ricardo Ferreira (Field CISO EMEA, Fortinet), Deepak Rambhadja (Sales Engineer, Rubrik), and Marcel van Leent (Security Leader, ABN AMRO Clearing Bank).
Together, they discuss why cybersecurity has become a board-level topic, how AI is changing both the offensive and defensive side of cyber, and why organisations need to move beyond compliance checklists towards true resilience. They also reflect on lessons from Ukraine's largest bank, the importance of automation, data governance and public-private partnerships, and why resilience ultimately depends as much on people, collaboration and culture as it does on technology. And looking ahead: how can organisations move from awareness to action, break down silos, and bring more business leaders into the cybersecurity conversation?
A big thank you to all speakers, participants and our event partners for making this another inspiring edition of the Leaders in Finance Cybersecurity Event.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab),

In deze extra aflevering van Leaders in Finance spreekt Jeroen Broekema met journalist en auteur Roel Janssen over zijn nieuwe boek Het Cryptoparadijs.
Aan de hand van een fictief verhaal over een verdwenen miljoenenfraude duiken zij in de wereld van cryptovaluta, witwassen, financiële criminaliteit en toezicht. Hoe makkelijk kan geld verdwijnen in de cryptowereld? Waarom is opsporing zo ingewikkeld? En wat maakt landen als El Salvador zo interessant voor crypto-ondernemers én criminelen?
Daarnaast vertelt Roel over het schrijfproces van het boek, zijn jaren als journalist bij NRC Handelsblad, zijn ervaringen in Latijns-Amerika en hoe fictie soms kan helpen om complexe financiële en maatschappelijke onderwerpen toegankelijker te maken voor een breed publiek.
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*** Bekijk hier het boek: Het cryptoparadijs. Zie ook: Gokkers en graaiers - Roel Janssen
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*** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB),

Arjan Bol werkt al meer dan 25 jaar op het snijvlak van betalingsverkeer, bankwezen en verzekeringen. Hij begon zijn loopbaan in de financiële sector in de jaren negentig en vervulde sindsdien uiteenlopende functies bij ING, Nationale-Nederlanden, Mastercard en Aon, zowel in Nederland als internationaal. Zo werkte hij onder meer in Zuid-Korea, de Filipijnen, Tsjechië, Slowakije, Mexico en het Verenigd Koninkrijk. Bij Mastercard was hij eerst Country Manager Nederland en later internationaal verantwoordelijk voor de commercialisering van nieuwe betaalplatformen. Daarna werd hij Chief Commercial Officer bij Aon Nederland. Daarnaast vervulde hij toezichthoudende rollen, waaronder bij bunq en CM Payments.
Sinds april 2025 is hij algemeen directeur van Betaalvereniging Nederland. Arjan studeerde Bouwkunde aan de TU Delft en Bedrijfskunde aan Nyenrode Business Universiteit. Tot slot, Arjan is 55 jaar, woont in Amsterdam met zijn vrouw Mireille en heeft 3 kinderen.
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*** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir),

In deze extra aflevering van Leaders in Finance spreekt Jeroen Broekema met Twan Huys over zijn nieuwe boek Het Droompad.
Aanleiding voor het boek is een wandeltocht van 550 kilometer van München naar Venetië, die Twan in verschillende etappes samen met zijn zoon Jack liep. Maar dit gesprek gaat over veel meer dan wandelen. Het gaat over de relatie tussen vader en zoon, over de invloed van ouders op een mensenleven, over afscheid nemen, rouw verwerken en de vraag hoe je rust vindt in een bestaan dat altijd maar doorgaat.
Twan vertelt openhartig over het overlijden van zijn beide ouders tijdens het schrijfproces van het boek, over zijn eigen neiging om altijd bezig te zijn en over de bijzondere gesprekken die ontstonden tijdens weken wandelen door de Alpen en Dolomieten. Ook spreken zij over natuur, klimaatverandering, massatoerisme, ambitie, werkdruk en waarom juist vertraging soms helpt om scherper te zien wat er echt toe doet.
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*** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest…

In this extra episode of Leaders in Finance, Jeroen Broekema speaks with Chris Lovett (executive coach, author, and speaker) about his new book Relentless: The Power of Doing Less in a Workplace that Demands More.
Together they discuss burnout, overwork, boundaries, deep work, meeting culture, the psychology behind saying yes too often, and why modern professionals increasingly struggle with time, focus, and energy. Chris also shares practical insights on strategic rest, leadership, decision-making, and creating space for what truly matters — both professionally and personally.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (supervisory board member, including at Rabobank and Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Val…

Duco van Lanschot is a Dutch fintech entrepreneur and the founder of Duna, a fast-growing technology company focused on business identity. Through Duna, he is building infrastructure that enables banks, fintechs and platforms to verify and onboard businesses, think KYC on Business Customers, more quickly and with less friction. The company was founded in 2023 by Duco and David Schreiber, and in a short period of time it has already raised more than €40 million in funding: first a €11 million seed round in 2025, followed by a €30 million Series A in February 2026. According to Duna, customers including Plaid, CCV-Fiserv, Moss, bol and Brand New Day Bank are already using the platform.
Before founding Duna, Duco worked at a number of well-known companies in tech and fintech. At Stripe, he was responsible for the Benelux and DACH regions, he served as Chief Commercial Officer at Fourthline, and at Blendle he worked on the company’s international expansion. Before that, he started his career at McKinsey & Company.
Finally, Duco studied law at Utrecht University. He is 38 years old and lives in Amsterdam with his wife and two children.
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*** Books mentioned in this episode: Man's search for meaning, Viktor E. Frankl Siddhartha, Hermann Hesse Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, Robert B. Cialdini
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Jan…

Former Volksbank CEO Martijn Gribnau returns to Leaders in Finance — almost five years after his first appearance.
From leading a major Dutch bank to helping build agentic AI company Quant in New York: what has he learned about leadership, innovation, and the future of financial services?
In this episode, Martijn shares why AI will fundamentally change banking, why Europe risks falling behind the US and China, what boards and CEOs should do today, and why “not experimenting” may now be the biggest risk.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (supervisory board member, includin…
Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they spoke with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry.
In this episode, host Kees de Wit speaks with Alberto Cuccu (COO International at Objectway) about what it really takes to scale in wealth management industry today.
They explore why strong platform foundations are essential before true differentiation can happen, how “solution as-a-service” differs from traditional SaaS, and why most innovation efforts fail when approached in isolation. The conversation also looks ahead, unpacking the growing role of AI in financial services, from automating operations to reshaping advisory roles, while highlighting one key constant: human judgment and emotion remain central.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq),

Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they spoke with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry.
In this extra episode of Leaders in Finance, Tom speaks with Alexander Cassar, CEO UK at Objectway.
They explore how wealth management firms can scale through modular, composable platforms while remaining client-centric. The conversation covers operational excellence, the impact of AI, and the importance of balancing customisation with efficiency. Alexander also shares his perspective on why trust continues to be the most underestimated driver in financial services.
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX),

Michael Jongeneel has been the CEO of FMO since September 2021. The Dutch development bank manages a portfolio of more than €15 billion and invests in the private sector across more than 85 emerging markets worldwide, with a strong focus on climate action, reducing inequality, and sustainable economic growth.
Michael studied Business Information Technology at the University of Twente and started his career in consulting at Accenture and later McKinsey & Company. In 2007, he joined Triodos Bank, where he held several executive roles, including Chief Operating Officer and Managing Director of Triodos Investment Management. After eight years at Triodos, he became a partner at Bain & Company, where he founded the global sustainability practice for financial services and advised leading banks and insurers on the climate transition and sustainable finance.
Beyond his professional career, Michael has long been active in the social and non-profit sector. Among other roles, he served as treasurer of Oxfam International and was treasurer of Giro555 for seven years. He lives near Utrecht, is married, and has two children.
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*** Books mentioned in the episode: The Untethered Soul, Michael A. Singer
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*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB),
Last month, Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they engaged with C-level leaders and senior decision-makers from across the European financial services industry.
In this episode, host Kees de Wit speaks with Maarten Lindner (Lead Investment Products at Rabobank) and Kurt Vanhee (CEO Continental Europe at Objectway) about what it really takes to drive innovation in a complex financial landscape.
They explore the tension between innovation and legacy systems, why data and infrastructure form the true foundation for transformation, and how large institutions balance agility with scale amid increasing regulation. The conversation also highlights the importance of a long-term “North Star” vision, the realities of modernizing client journeys, and why innovation in finance is never a finished process—but a continuous journey.
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*** Questions, suggestions, or feedback? We'd love to hear from you! You can reach us via email at [email protected] and check out our website.
*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Executive Board, AFM),
Last month, our colleagues Kees de Wit and Tom van Disseldorp travelled to Sorrento, Italy, at the invitation of Objectway for OWIN26. During this multi-day event, they engaged with senior leaders from across the European financial services industry on the future of operating models, partnerships, and innovation.
In this episode, host Tom van Disseldorp speaks with Karl de Borger (Head of Sales and Relationship Management at KBC Securities Services), Thomas de Nil (Head of Savings and Investments at vdk bank), and Kurt Vanhee (CEO Continental Europe at Objectway) about what it takes to build successful partnerships in an increasingly complex financial ecosystem.
Together, they discuss why trust and accountability are becoming increasingly important in partner ecosystems, how banks and wealth managers are dealing with growing complexity behind the scenes, and what changing client expectations mean for the future of the industry. They also reflect on consolidation in the market, the rise of AI-driven operations, and why technology should ultimately create more space for personal client relationships rather than less.
*** Leaders in Finance is made possible by the support of EY, Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen, and Lepaya. More information about our partners is available at our partner page.
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*** Questions, suggestions, or feedback? We'd love to hear from you! You can reach us via email at [email protected] and check out our website.
*** Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Executive Board, ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO ASN Bank), Gerrit Zalm (former Minister of Finance and former CEO of ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (member of the Executive Board, a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (Executive Board, Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (former President DNB), Onno Ruding (former minister of finance), Yoram Schw…










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